On monday may 3, 2021 I was on a highway off-ramp going about 30 mph when my steering wheel suddenly locked up, the collision mitigation system sounded, the brakes engaged, and the car began to swerve into the oncoming lane over the double yellow lines. The most common features are a black cap and a negative symbol. I am certified in private cars and heavy-duty commercial vehicles. A number of things can cause the emission system light to illuminate. The contact had not experienced a failure. (covered under warranty) yesterday afternoon 9/27 I was at a stoplight, once again in auto-idle stop mode. The contact stated that when the failure would occur, the instrument panel turns blank and all electrical systems such as the speedometer, seat heaters, etc. On numerous occasions, our car has completely turned off (radio and other power features go off as well) when it was in idle-stop mode and tried to start again. To me, this is a major hazard. Naturally, you should check for problems before resetting your emission system problem light. When driving on some rural roads where line is clearly present in road my car automatically applies brakes as crash avoidance when oncoming car is coming that is clearly in its own lane. Call (520) 795-4440 for more information. In November 2020, they issued another pair of service bulletins, including this one for the 2017 and 2018 models, and one covering the 2016 Pilot. I feel that this is a very serious problem and it appears that a few other complaints have been filed for the same issue. The contact stated that the recall repair was improperly performed. I started using premium gas and emissions light went away.is it still a catalytic converter? The contact owns a 2019 honda pilot. If it isnt, however, youll have to pay for the repair costs yourself. The radio/backing camera/phone Panel goes black while I am driving daily on city streets or the highway. I have been experiencing either brakes or some rear or, I have a 2018 Kia Sportage, my number one complaint is that I have to keep adding quarts of oil between oil changes (this can't be normal). They found none! Has happened multiple times in busy intersections where you're a sitting target for moving traffic. My car just run around 40,000 miles and Already have that problem. In more instances than not, drivers have been able to get the car moving and get home safely after pulling the vehicle off the road and letting it rest for a minute. This happens sporadically whether the car is stationary or in movement. Your author Whats your name? I finally figured out how to get the vehicle to start again. The contact stated the failure was related to nhtsa action number: pe22005 (engine and engine cooling). Bought it from a BMW dealer so I hope that doesnt matter. No more cruise control and lane assist malfunctions, random loss of the speedometer and backup camera or other frequently experienced safety issues. Corrosion is also known to occur above the top of the fuel tank, especially in climates where road salt is used frequently. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO FIRST TEXAS HONDA TO BE DIAGNOSED, BUT THE CAUSE OF THE FAILURE WAS UNDETERMINED. The front heater display goes blank. This has happened multiple times and honda was notified and does not seem concerned about this safety issue but is aware that it happens. All controls, and the radio, were working again after leaving the car off for a few hours. From the center display, we lose the back up camera, radio, navigation, dvd player and ability to make hands free phone calls among other things. It is a push button electric shifter and the vehicle has had multiple recalls and service bulletins for electronics (all repaired) and has experienced issues beginning one month after I purchased the car brand new. The contact stated that the failure was experienced several times. All this while car is in motion. The contact received notification of nhtsa campaign number: 20v439000 (back over prevention, electrical system) and 20v440000 (electrical system, back over prevention). Why does the brake light come on when accelerating or braking? When stopped at a red light the engine shifted from drive to neutral on its own. There are several first signs of this. Basically everytime the suv comes to a stop, it completely shuts down car. After reboot speedometer is off for about 5 seconds before it comes on but the speed is not accurate. After seeing the damage, I taped it up and called my insurance. I was about to pull out when the dash starting flashing/lighting up & I couldn't go anywhere. The check engine light is solely on for emissions purposes. This issue has happened several times since buying the pilot in 2019. The first time was more than six months ago. Dash console goes blank for 1 min then shows up again. Dealer can't reproduce the problem as it happens sporadically. Dash and media console turn off randomly. 2019 honda pilot suv. the pilot will suddenly not start and has around 36k miles. (the last picture is just a blank screen). Its been not even 24 hours and I drove the car and the computer just went blank. Finally, after a few minutes it turned off and I was able to start it back up and put it in drive. In a Honda, the check engine light indicates that the vehicle requires servicing. The engine start stop function failed to restart the car at an intersection. This happens in both hot and cold weather. Describe your legal concern or comment Briefly describe your experience Briefly describe your experience. This happen during turns and straight driving. Apple car play doesn't work with the vehicle. Honda Pilot 2019 computer problems. The vehicle start button has to be pressed 2 or 3 times before it finally restarts. If it's not a battery or loose/corroded battery terminal, it could be an open/shorted wire or loose ground. I'm taking it to get looks at by honda cars of katy on 8/25/2021. Also the spot on the dash that tells you if you are in park, neutral, drive or reverse has all of the letters on top of each other and they were flashing. The failure mileage was approximately 100. I'm not sure how many cars are running in this condition on the road. The emission problem light can come on for any number of reasons, but for 2016-2018 model Pilots, there is a clear pattern where the light is accompanied by the transmission light and difficulty in shifting gears. If you have been driving the car already for a while with the warning message on, I recommend not driving the car anymore until you take it to a dealership. The touchscreen freezes while driving and cannot be used further without parking the car, turning off the engine, opening the driver's door, and then re-starting the vehicle. As of right now, I have not had it checked by a dealer. On july 3, 2020, after reversing out of my garage onto my driveway, I put the car in drive and when I pressed the accelerator, the car shifted into park on its own. The car stalls and displays several dashboard warning lights and will not start back up after it auto stops. This could have resulted in a broadside or t bone impact if traffic had been busier or distracted. It stated I needed to shift the car into park, and then restart the engine. If your 2016 Honda Pilots check engine light starts blinking, it signifies theres a problem that needs to be fixed right away, and your Honda should be brought in as soon as possible. What should happen: upon starting the car, the audible and visual alarms should default to the full energized mode. I am a 66yo, type 1 diabetic. The restart feature fails somewhat regularly, maybe about 5% of the time. It has occurred a number of times. Network communication lost. I have informed honda and they told me they would file my complaints. The vehicle was destroyed. When I use the auto start stop feature and stop at a light or stop sign my transmission shutdowns. The vehicle has not been inspected by anyone yet for this issue. SAFETY BEING THE MAIN CONCERN HERE. Often, drivers who experienced these warning signs pulled thecar off the road. Also, weirdly car moved forward little bit when I just pushed start button to start the car even after brake paddle was pushed down position and touching gas paddle at all. There was no vehicle in close proximity and no imminent collision that should have caused the vehicle to slam on the brakes. Randy Stegbauer Member. Basically implying that I am crazy and this does not occur unless I can get a video of it when it is happening. The contact was not informed when the repairs could be completed. I spoke to a dealer about it and they told me to bring it in to be checked. Hoping to hear from you soon. Additionally, the center console infotainment screen, which also serves as the screen for the back up camera will shut off, for varying amounts of time, rendering the ability to see/use the back up camera useless. Every time it's scary, especially with cars behind me honking for me to go. The contact stated that the vehicle was taken to the dealer to be repaired under nhtsa campaign number: 21v932000 (structure, latches/locks/linkages). The engine never restarts right away. I have complained to the honda dealer during each oil change that my engine shuts off when I am driving and come to a stop at intersections. The dealer and manufacturer were not contacted. If I do not start my car every day and let it run, it will not start the next day. I am tired of honda telling me that they cannot find anything wrong with the vehicle. This is clearly the system prematurely failing or the system prematurely killing the battery (which has a normal functional life of 5 - 7 years). Instead, be alert to any issues your cars powertrain and engine might have. Despite how important the powertrain is, Honda hasn't taken the time to ensure integrity with the system. The police arrived on the scene. There were no warning lights illuminated. If you dont have enough information about this, you might feel anxious. *tr. The worst complaints are vehicle went into neutral by itself on speed bump would not shift to drive from. Honda might be right the Pilot features plenty of style, but will it arrive? Consequently, the vehicle is useless to me; I cannot use the power tailgate while the vehicle is parked in my garage. Honda also states that it can not turn off the auto start/stop feature. The first couple of times, the engine would stall but would immediately start up again after turning the back on. The vehicle was taken to the dealer; however, the dealer was not able to duplicate the failure. While the engine is running, the catalytic converter should be cleaning up the exhaust, keeping the voltage between the two sensors the same. With debris getting into the components, what you eventually have is cylinder misfire. [xxx] so they knew that I was going to towed in. I was not able to put it in drive, there was a notification that the car needs to be started before going into d. Finally was able to turn off the car. Owners are frustrated and ready to trade it in for a vehicle that actually arrives the way it should. For the first ten months after purchasing a brand new 2019 honda pilot touring I was treated as one of honda's guinea pigs. No warning signs. We took the car in for service and we were told that a reset had been performed and all the electronics should function normally. They did and that seems criminal to me. Also water coming from no where on the driver side floor when it rain hard or light notice this since the day I bought it. Rear breaks is self activating when vehicle is stationary or in park or at stop light and when you apply the accelerator or start to drive you can hear it release with some noise in the rear and it continues to grid the pads as if the break calipers have not fully released from the rear rotors. The pilot turns the engine off while idling to save fuel. If you see a check engine or emissions light on your dashboard, utilize an OBD II scan tool to determine which component detected a problem. However, there have been numerous times when it has been slow to start, or fail to restart. Youll want to be on the lookout for anything that might be wrong with your engine and powertrain. While in traffic or at a stoplight, you might feel the car shake and sputter. This week my 2018 Clarity started displaying "Emissions System Problem" on the dashboard. It happened from davenport, ia to des moines, ia on 14 jan 22. The start/ stop feature is malfunctioning. Please help me in this matter as this could be happening to others. Car has failed to restart multiple times after the idle mode feature kicks in when coming to a complete stop. The key difference between a service bulletin and a recall: the former is an optional repair covered by warranty or by the owner. The dealers suggestions are not practical. I brought it to the attention of the dealership from which I purchased the car, but they could not reproduce the issue. Does this ring a bell? The contact was able to restart the vehicle and the vehicle was operated normally. Now at 80,000 dealer tells me its 2catalytic converters and will cost $5000 to replace. Service Bulletin #APaS09092019904 discusses a chirping noise coming from the engine compartment. This is very unsafe due to my vehicle moving when unoccupied and with the parking brake set. 1/17/23, 1/12/23(3x) and 12/20/22. Updates and everything fail to fix issues. Extremely unsafe. Last resort Ill take it to a dealer. NOW MY DASH TURNS ON SOMETIMES AND THE RADIO DOES NOT CONNECT AND IS A BLACK SCREEN. Connection lost, no backup camera, no radio- no use of main info panel. I have all paperwork on it but it is currently at dealership now again and the paperwork documentation is being attached and they have records in their files as well. I gave up with the dealer but it is scary when people behind you honk and I could be rear ended because I'm scrambling to press the transmission buttons or restarting. I have no idea of how fast I am going or if there are any emergency warnings. Check and tighten gas cap. In the end, I have a honda pilot back that my wife is afraid to drive in what is a very busy city. The problem is the message continues while you continue driving. I got stuck at at heavy traffic roads and traffic lights frequently. In case I shut off the "auto-shutoff" feature, car works perfectly fine. I see they subrogate each other, which is not correct. I am actually reporting two incidences, since the first (never reported) now appears to be related. Cars nearly rear ended me and my children who were in the back. Auto engine shut off will turn off engine at stoplight but fail to restart engine when brake is released. The failure mileage was 30,000. THEY KNOW THE SOLUTIONS AND CAN DIRECT YOU AS THEIR EXPERTISE IS WORTH EVERY CENT!!! This happened 2x in 1 day. If this has been happening to you, you are not alone and more importantly it is not normal. I hate this feature and makes me extremely nervous while having the little ones in the backseat. 2019 honda pilot. It started. Despite repairs (all injectors replaced and fuel system cleanse agents etc) I still get transient emission light indicating. I clear the codes anyway. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR AN AUTO MANUFACTURER TO NOT LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF A FIX IS AND WHEN TO EXPECT A RESOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM. I have detailed documentation for these issues including videos of the issues happening while driving. After checking the engine computer, they could find no fault codes for the Check Engine Light flashing the day before. If you have any questions regarding the site's content, please contact emma@lemonlawcar.com. It was not possible to change gears or place the car in neutral. The honda pilot's dashboard and lcd touch screen would restart randomly, for no reasons. Purchased pilot on april 2019. My speedometer was blank while driving. The failure occurred intermittently. In his spare time, Brian enjoys working on pickup trucks, muscle cars, Jeeps and anything related to motorsports. Worries me reading these cause I dont want to have issues driving on the freeway of Phoenix to take it in to be looked at. Whats your name? There were no noticeable errors that I recall. Once it came to a complete stop unnecessarily, thankfully no one was behind me. Problem started same day when I went to dealer to check if there is any issues with my car. I took my car to stevens creek honda in calif and they bled my brakes this helped a little but did not solve the problem. Also please check out the statistics and reliability analysis of Honda Pilot based on all problems reported for the Pilot. The manufacturer had not been informed of the failure. We've had the car at the dealership twice for this issue and it still isn't resolved. I pressed my brake immediately. Were there any warning lamps, messages or other symptoms of the problem prior to the failure, and when did they first appear? When stopping with the auto idle stop enabled the engine would sputter and nearly stall. Thats what they are charging me at the dealership. How much does it cost to fix an Emissions System Problem? Multiple messages pop up when the radio isn't working. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. The radio and entertainment system goes out often and loses all sound. I love this beautiful car, but safety is my first issue. Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. The contact towed the vehicle to an independent mechanic. Additionally, because the emission system is tied to everything the engine and gearbox perform, as well as all of its auxiliary symptoms, emission system defects might appear in a variety of ways. 1. It engages so quickly even at a quick stop sign the car is shuts off (I think timing should be extended). There were no other visual issues or messages prior to this problem. The most recent time, they told me it was acceptable and that honda says it can move up to 5 and be within acceptable tolerances. It also seems to be more violent when at larger intersections (I. E. Loud pops and black screen has been noted when at large traffic light intersections and on freeways with overhead signs that may contain a radio frequency transmitter). Auto idle start/stop stalls at intersection. My family was terrified and embarrassed. The problem was confirmed and reproduced by the dealer. After stopping at a light, auto restart did not start the car again. I assumed it was because I did not have my foot pressed enough. There is a delay in all of this. The problem will continue to cycle over and over until you shut off the car and restart it. Why Does My Honda Pilot Says Keyless Start System Problem? The warning message usually shows up around 40,000 - 60,000 miles, and sometimes even earlier. We then get a warning saying "check tuner" and then the infotainment system and the display behind the steering wheel shutdown. I seriously suspect that there is some thing seriously flawed. The issue seemed to occur shortly after another recall was performed for the fuel pump. Lucky my daughter was not sitting at the back otherwise she would have been hurt with the flying glass. Thankfully, most 2016-2018 Pilots are still covered by their original eight-year/80,000-mile warranties. The failure mileage was 25,000. I must shut off the feature every time I restart the car. The random slamming of the brakes almost caused a rear end collision with our vehicle and the car behind us. Although mechanically the vehicle works well, it is quite distracting & a big safety issue for me, to have no instrument panel or other visual data to rely on while driving. Or shot b/c of crazy road rage people. The contact stated that the dealer repaired the vehicle. It has happened 5 times in the past 2 weeks. I was on the way to the honda dealership to buy an oil filter and crush ring to change the oil. That lane was also slowing as I can see the cars in the front slowing down and stopping. Sometimes when the engine won't restart, the display will very quickly (for a second or two) flash "collision mitigation system problem". You could also have a faulty gas cap, so check it first. It also displayed the check engine light. It will discuss the prevalent emission system warnings shadowing Honda Accord drivers. 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